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Just after the Florida State game, I posted on here that we should remain optimistic. I wrote that I like our coaches, and that we should be pleased with their development. Well, after another long 3 hour drive home from that game last night, I'm rethinking. These are some general observations of the game from 16 rows up....

1. I saw frequent confusion on defense looking for signals from the sideline when TCU would break quickly and set quickly. BYU guys just weren't ready at the snap and they were getting pushed back 3-4 yards. I credit them with not giving up too many big plays, but this made it easy for TCU to methodically work down the field. Generally, I thought our defense played a pretty decent game. If the offense had put together any long scoring drives, the defense was good enough to keep us in the game. 

2. Our offense, on the other hand, was impatient. We were RUNNING THE BALL ON THEM! Yet, we didn't keep it up. Harvey was chewing up 4-5 yards per carry, but we kept trying to force long passes. If we had stuck with the run to set up the pass, then we could have moved the ball on those guys. We did it repeatedly, but Anae and Hall kept looking for the long throws. I believe it was the 2nd drive of the game when we had moved into TCU territory and we faced 2nd and 2. Instead of running Harvey, we dropped Hall back to pass and he got sacked. Stick with what is working! It's like we're so proud of our passing game that we refuse to accept the fact that we just might have to beat a team with 3-5 yard runs mixed with some short passing. It blew my mind that Anae couldn't change his game plan to match what they were giving us. To me, our offensive woes were directly tied to coaching. Anae has to learn to adjust in-game to what is working.

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3. Tying into #2, I'm worried that BYU is more dedicated to the principles of maintaining an offensive/defensive identity/philosophy than they are about finding and exploiting the other team's weaknesses. TCU obviously struggled with Manase and Harvey lining up in the I and running right at them. Use that to set up everything else! Use that to set up some play action that involves short passing or Max rolling out. I just don't get it when we refuse to change our identity for a game. Saying, "We're BYU, this is what we do, and we will out-execute you even though you know what's coming" just doesn't work all the time. We need to have the guts to change within a game.

4. I thought the players on BYU looked equally skilled as TCU's players (I felt the opposite with Florida St.). There is no reason we should be getting blown off the field by TCU or Utah or any other team. If we lose, fine. But getting blown off the field? We had the players and the effort yesterday, but the coaching was terrible. You could see delays in getting the defense set yesterday, and you could see that TCU had some weaknesses on defense (nothing major, but there were holes) that could be exploited by an adept coordinator. BYU has now been blown out by TCU twice, and Utah once in the past three games with those guys. There is no reason this should be happening given our talent and experience on the field. Our coordinators need to adjust.

5. If I hear one more player or one more coach say the players just need to execute better, I'm going to puke. Getting beat 38-7 on your home field isn't about players not executing game plans - at least not in this instance. From the stands, I saw guys working their butts off within their assignments, from one play to the next, and I felt like guys were doing what the play called for. However, I felt that the plays being sent in were not effective. To me, this game was about coaching. Gary Patterson and his staff out-coached BYU. Of course, there were a few plays that could have been better executed (Chambers dropping that long pass down the east sideline), but I didn't walk away from that game thinking I had just watched poor play and a lack of effort. It was clear to me, and the people sitting around me, that the coaching needs to step up. Again, I'm not expecting a win every game, but we have the athletes and the experience to be competitive every game, especially within conference.

Well, that's my two cents. I still like our coaching staff. But I believe the time has come to stop blaming execution and start looking at coaching. The coaches need to step up and at least get the team ready to compete each week. I think the Y is spending too much time worrying about how to approach the season or the game (having fun vs business-like; Quest for Perfection vs One Game at a Time). Football really comes down to one thing: is the game plan good, and are the players executing it? I felt like the players were executing the plan yesterday, but I don't think yesterday's plan was a good one. That's coaching. 

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Totally agree about the runnning game...

I was saying all night, we’re not PATIENT enough to beat these guys. Had we stuck with Harvey more, I think we could have controlled that game offensively speaking. 3 runs at 4 yards a pop is a 1st down, then they adjust and we go long on a pass. But that didn;t happen.

by Smills91 on Oct 26, 2009 7:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

exactly

Everyone around me (and they’re all pretty good fans who are multi-year season ticket holders) kept asking why we didn’t just turn this into a slow, methodical game where we run Harvey until he drops or TCU stops him….and then start working off of this. Why can’t the coaching staff see this? I realize I may just be an uneducated fan, but we could all see that BYU wasn’t patient. Anae and Max want that home run and that quick drive. I thought those long drives vs SDSU last week were a sign of patience coming. Not so.

by heyjoe! on Oct 26, 2009 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree there may have been some coaching issues.

But talent and effort don’t necessarily mean you win. I know you’re not saying that, but at some point you have to acknowledge another team might simply be better. And I think TCU is, and it’s probably not as close we thought. They’re better, and beyond that it’s a bad matchup as well (which coaching probably should have mitigated more than it did).

That being said, I’ll agree that the margin of victory was (again) disconcerting. A loss would be much easier to take if we at least seemed not as far behind them as we did.

by holly96 on Oct 26, 2009 12:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

one team better

I’ve been reading a lot of articles that suggest or outright state that TCU’s talent level is vastly superior than BYU’s. It’s hard for me to believe that we beat them 2 years in a row simply by out-executing them, and then they pummeled us 2 years in a row because their talent level suddenly went up. I didn’t see a talent difference on the field the other night. What I saw was one team going after another team’s weaknesses, and the other team failing to accomplish this. BYU, TCU, and Utah have a pretty even collection of talent. They should be fighting it out each year for a conference title, but there should not be consistent blow-outs. BYU legitimately stood toe-to-toe with Oklahoma’s talent because the game plan was awesome. Jaime was on the ball that day and Anae did a decent job of attacking OKLA mainly by rolling Max out and using Kariya in unexpected situations when OKLA wasn’t expecting it. TCU just overwelmed us with better coaching.

by heyjoe! on Oct 26, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think talent level automatically equates to better team.

I see them as having a high correlation certainly, but not completely equal, if that makes sense. I think two teams could have about the same amount of individual talent, but one could still be a better team. I don’t think TCU has vastly superior talent, either. I just think that as a team, they’re better.

by holly96 on Oct 27, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

YES

Execution works against New Mexico, UNLV, and Tulane. I remember hearing at media days when Bronco was being interviewed and asked if he would change anything different for the upcoming season and he said no. The interviewer referred to the few padded practices which have been the same, and then Bronco said if we execute we will have results.

Well coach that has proved you wrong the pass few years when they play good opponents. The coaching staff does not make adjustments even though they say they had 3 options in the TCU game and well I did not see them. Robert Anae seems to want to throw the ball all the time and put up video game numbers, but what he forgets is that he has a VERY good RB in Harvey Unga sitting in the backfield and is not used enough.

by Jeremy Mauss on Oct 27, 2009 6:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree

Harvey was underutilized. I got the feeling as I watched that game that Anae wanted to run him just to prove he could. But then he wanted to pass just to prove we could. I’d like to see our coordinators scrap the game plan and stick with what is working in-game. In that game, we should have run Harvey til he dropped. He is a phenomenal running back with a ton of talent. I would like to see us use him more catching the ball out of the backfield, too. Like that TD pass to him. Why not run that play a couple of more times?

by heyjoe! on Oct 27, 2009 7:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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