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Bud Elliott, "Chief" of Tomahawk Nation, the highly successful Seminoles blog at SB Nation, took the time this week to answer a few of our questions in relation to Saturday's game in Provo.  So thanks to Bud and enjoy his valuable insights below...

1.  What will the Seminoles' general game plan be for stopping Max Hall and BYU's versatile passing game?

It's a major concern.  I have a ton of respect for BYU's attack.  As with any Air-Raid based attack, you have to pick your poison.  I anticipate that FSU will press and blitz, which means BYU must go deep.  Hall seems to be very accurate generally, but I haven't seen him throw the deep ball with accuracy (not the lob pass, but some of the deeper tough stuff).  The NFL draft scouting reports also express skepticism over Hall's ability to threaten teams by driving the ball deep.  So press and blitz.  It's a high-risk, high-reward strategy.  It's also high variance, a strategy favoring underdogs.  

FSU has CBS' #1 CB prospect nationally in Patrick Robinson, which should help.  I have no doubts that he can shut down Jacobson.  If BYU is going to throw on FSU, they will have to do so with their secondary wideouts, TE's and backs.  One thing I don't anticipate is FSU playing a lot of zone.  FSU doesn't play a good zone, and Hall looks like really plays well against zone defenses.  Additionally, BYU's guys are unreal at sitting down at the holes in zones. So hopefully there won't be much zone.  I just can't see FSU letting BYU move down the field in 5-10 yard dink and dunk passes.  I have worried about covering Pitta and the other TE (George) [because] he did look good on film.  FSU has traditionally been burnt by tight ends that they forget about.  Pitta will get some, but I worry about the #2 TE more. Expect FSU to treat Pitta as a wideout.  

Much more after the jump...

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2.  What should Mendenhall and the Cougars be the most concerned about? (Ponder's play-making ability? FSU's pass rush? Etc.)

Definitely Ponder.  FSU will make BYU Defend 11.  FSU is going to spread BYU out.  They will test BYU's 3rd and 4th cornerbacks.  If BYU wants to blitz, they will have to do it from a slightly greater distance, which will make it easier for FSU to pick it up because it will take just a bit longer to get there and is thus easier to identify..  But most of all, defend 11.  I haven't seen BYU play well against a team with a mobile QB.  A terrible UW team almost beat BYU last year because BYU couldn't account for Jake Locker.  TCU dismantled BYU by running their QB and putting a wideout at QB.  And Utah of course runs the spread option.  FSU had the most efficient rushing offense in the ACC last season, running a lot of the zone-read and option principles.  They return their entire offensive line which is considered one of the best in the country.  

Can BYU defend all 11 offensive players?  If so, at what cost?  Are they dropping a safety down into the box?  If so, that limits the possible coverages they can play.  Are they able to stop the run game with only their front 7?  If so, huge advantage BYU.  I have my doubts about their ability to stop the run while playing the cover-4 they ran against OU.  But the only 2 teams that were able to stop FSU's run game with only their front 7 last year were Boston College (DT's selected 8th overall and 40th overall in 1st and 2nd round of NFL draft, and a Butkus Award Finalist), and UF.  I happen to think BYU will need that extra guy to stop FSU from running Ponder, who was the quickest player on the team last season (fastest shuttle time).   Will BYU put their corners on an island?  This will be an interesting chess-match.


3.  Who is the one Seminole player VTF isn't necessarily familiar with and should be aware of going into Saturday's game?

I had to think about this, and I decided on Greg Reid over Jermaine Thomas.  Reid was the 2nd rated cornerback prospect coming out of high school last year and he is flat electric.  Here's some film.  He's out-running Miami's special teams speed.  Reid also plays nickel corner for the Noles, and if Hall is late with a throw, Reid has the incredible closing speed to cut off a route and take the ball the other way for 6.  Maybe BYU's recent kickoff woes are a blessing in disguise?  If you kick if out of bounds, the ball won't be in Reid's hands.  

4.  What is the general consensus at TN regarding BYU's win over OU?  (Fluke? Legit? OU-choke job? Etc...)

Well I wrote this last night, but I honestly believe that it was a combination of better BYU defense and unforced OU errors.  It takes two to tango.  If they played again, with a healthy Bradford, I'd make OU a 14 pt favorite rather than a 21 point fave, because I think OU would try to do a little less on offense, and their fumbles are unlikely to be so untimely.  But football isn't played in a 7-game series, and BYU got the win.  That doesn't stop me from making performance based, rather than end results based conclusions.  


5.  What is the general perspective at TN on the MWC's recent success toward gaining future respectability from the BCS?

I think the MWC should earn it a bit more like FSU did when they were coming up.  FSU went to the big house and beat Michigan, went to Nebraska and beat them in the sea of red, etc.  I go to Alabama for law school (FSU undergrad) and I can honestly say that they didn't care much about playing Utah in the Sugar Bowl.  While Utah was incredibly hyped, Bama saw the game as a letdown.  Their season was dashed the previous game against UF.

I don't think MWC teams face as challenging a schedule as many BCS conference teams, and when you have a lot of games in which you can sit your starters, it decreases the chance of injury.  Additionally, you can focus on your big games when you don't have to consistently get up to play each game.  I'd like to see Utah or BYU come east and make their mark against some good teams (not Virginia).  Beating OU was a good start, but playing Tulane, Colorado State, Utah State, UNLV, San Diego State, Wyoming, New Mexico and Air Force is a joke and to counteract that most MWC teams need to schedule 2 or 3 non-conference games against consistently ranked teams.  I think BYU, TCU, or Utah should seek to join the Pac10.  

A really important and underrated game for the MWC this year will be TCU @ Clemson, which seems to be the only example of a MWC team willing to come east of the Mississippi to face quality competition.  If Clemson, a 6-7 team last year from the ACC, though likely a bowl team this year, beats TCU, that doesn't say much about the MWC.  It's not about winning or losing one game, it's about being able to consistently play with good competition week in and week out.  MWC teams completely underestimate the grind of playing a schedule like FSU's (11 bowl teams from last year) or South Carolina's.  

I wrote about some of the motivational issues here.  I worry that FSU will see BYU as just another game on its schedule, because I see BYU as one of the better teams FSU will play this year.  I respect BYU, but I don't believe that most teams from the MWC and especially the WAC have earned the respect they seek.  Go out and do what FSU did to get that national respect.  Play 4 top-15 teams in consecutive weeks, three of them on the road.  As a program on the outside looking in, you can't demand home-and-home games from a lot of these teams.  You have to go to their house and beat them.


6.  Even if FSU were to lose in Provo, what would their outlook be on winning the ACC this season?

That is an interesting question.  I happen to think they will end up in a tie with Clemson for the Atlantic Division at 5-3 or 6-2, but FSU must play at Clemson, and while both teams must play Georgia Tech and Miami from the Coastal, FSU has to play at UNC on a Thursday night as their 3rd Coastal contest, while Clemson draws pitiful Virginia.  The schedule should make the difference.  

I expect a well-played game with a turnover or two for each side and a few big plays as  well.  Good luck guys!    

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I had one last question

what kind of off feild problems do BYU player have. I dont think you would see stuff like what FSU players have done in the past.

Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry

by Desman on Sep 16, 2009 5:09 PM PDT reply actions  

You're right

BYU’s Honor Code requires players to avoid substance abuse, sexual acts outside of marriage and a few other things, including your traditional law-breaking acts…so to answer your question, I don’t know and you’re right, I’m sure BYU’s players aren’t getting into most of the things some FSU players are—whether or not some acts are bad, it’s just the Code at BYU.

by Layton on Sep 16, 2009 5:20 PM PDT reply actions  

that just rocks. most games I have no repect for other teams but

I have nothing but repect for BYU as a team, a program and as a school.

Why is the sky blue? Because, God Loves the Infantry

by Desman on Sep 16, 2009 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the interview

Others that came to mind:

To Alabama fans: in the light of your “letdown” in the Sugar Bowl, what’re your thoughts on other “letdowns”, like Vietnam? Do you share much sympathy with the Texans who let themselves down at the Alamo?

To Florida State fans: if BYU were to play Jacksonville State, Chattanooga, and Western Carolina like FSU instead of their choice to play UCLA, Oklahoma, and Florida State, do you think they would still have a chance to earn respect?

Also, FSU fans, given the Jacksonville State Gamecocks defense was shredded for 79 rushing yards last week in the 19-9 loss to you guys, do you think that BYU, who was barely able to limit OU to 265 total yards instead of the normal 590/game has enough time to learn how to defend the spread?

"You're excited? Feel these nipples!"
-Bob Costas

by karatefistsandbeans on Sep 16, 2009 6:04 PM PDT reply actions  

To Florida State fans: if BYU were to play Jacksonville State, Chattanooga, and Western Carolina like FSU instead of their choice to play UCLA, Oklahoma, and Florida State, do you think they would still have a chance to earn respect?

If they played a three game season, no. But if we’re judging on the whole slate, then I think FSU’s slate of 10 bowl teams, competition that sent over 30 players to the NFL via the draft, is much tougher than BYU’s or any MWC team- this year or last.

I really don’t think you can take much from the Jax State game.

by Bud Elliott on Sep 16, 2009 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

you're mixing seasons...

you cannot deny the difficulty of florida state’s schedule this year. i hope you don’t classify UCLA as a respectable opponent?

by garnetandgold on Sep 16, 2009 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mixing 2008 and 2009

The Oklahoma game is big. Much respect. You didn’t do it @ Oklahoma, as FSUn is trying to point out, but you did beat them and that’s more than FSU can say about any top 10 team over the past 5 years (less a highly overrated BC team).

HOWEVER, UCLA is about on the same page as FSU—rebuilding—though even more set back IMO (though this year they are coming around to their new coach). We are a beatable team, and I think that’s what this game is supposed to be. A home game against a notable team that is beatable.

But seriously, you really need to go INTO someone’s house and beat them. Its what FSU did and its what Miami did sigh. Go INTO the Swamp and beat the Gators. Next year would be a good year. Go to the Horseshoe and give the Big 10 another slap in the face. Tressel has more talent than anyone in CF—show him why the Air-Raid is better than the trench style game of OSU. When your in conference schedule isn’t strong, go out of the conference and knock off some titans on their mountain. That turns heads. That shuts up pundits.

Because you are right, they don’t know what they are talking about; what they do know, however, is you haven’t truly tested yourself.

And Nick Sa*an is a cry baby just like Urban Whiner. So I’m sure his team was all bitchy and I am glad Utah slugged ’em good.

This schedule was good this year, I will hand you that, but you aren’t GOING to their house and playing them. Your inviting them in.

by Trus1te on Sep 16, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol.

We admittedly had an easy time with our OOC last year, but trying to dog FSU’s scheduling tradition is downright hysterical. We’re notorious for playing anyone that’s willing to play us. Hell, one of those two DII games last year was supposed to be against a SEC team that shall not be named that backed down.

In either case, we have the hardest schedule in the nation this year. You guys play Utah State, New Mexico, UNLV, Colorado State, San Diego State, Air Force… that list is so pathetic it’s no wonder you can pretty much focus on a few hard games all year and come out hyped up for them. Us? We are traveling to Utah to play you guys and turning around and playing our intra-state rival (that we absolutely did not have to schedule but did) the next weekend. You just can’t relate to that.

If BYU beats us, it will be because of your offense shredding our defense, which I believe is entirely possible. Trust me when I tell you our offense is going to put up some points, so don’t try to take what you saw against Jax St as anything but a team sleepwalking through a game.

by pbysh on Sep 16, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very Fair Responses

It doesn’t answer all my “questions”, but let me take the moment to applaud the fairness of your responses. FSU fans acquit themselves better than their team. My questions were admittedly snarky, but there’s real thought behind them.

I’m not an alum or even a big fan of BYU. I’m a Michigan alum who moved out west. But coming out west, to less “established” schools, I’m amazed by the amount of condescending b.s. these fans take from more historical schools. So, while I’m sure that BYU doesn’t need my help in succeeding, I bristle at these “prove yourself” arguments. If we were to take BYU’s defense and slap a VaTech/Texas A&M/LSU uniform on them, they’d be rightfully called terrifying and excellent and probably lauded as one of the best in the nation. But because its from a school in a state far too few people visit, its consistency or efficacy is called into question or “the jury’s still out”. BYU’s defense might be suspect- only time will tell, but that verdict has to be based on merits, not on history.

From my perspective, having watched both games this year, BYU’s defense is hellacious, irrespective of where they’re from. They swarm, they tackle well, they’re experienced several places. I wouldn’t want to face any of them in a dark alley anywhere. I have no doubt that against my precious Tate Forcier he would end up quite similar to Sam Bradford: face down, contemplating other career fields, and a shoulder 200% damaged.

My point in terms of scheduling is this: schedules are often determined years out, and for someone like BYU, the only way they ever get to face a quality out-of-conference team is to go to them. Besides this FSU game, give me any other big name schools that went to Provo. While BCS schools have an incentive to get Charleston Southern-y in their scheduling, BYU, besides facing several perennial top-25s in conference in TCU and Utah, has gone and played a bunch of Pac-10 schools, Boston College, Oklahoma, now FSU, the list goes on.

This is the longest thing I’ve ever written about a school I never attended in a state I don’t live in. But the quality of mountain region football (pax CU) demands this defense.Take it from me MWC fans, you guys put up with way more than you need. Act like you’re already proven, keep knocking ’round the BCS clowns, and the other conferences will come round.

"You're excited? Feel these nipples!"
-Bob Costas

by karatefistsandbeans on Sep 16, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Michigan, knew it. Thanks for beating ND

I will say that my skepticism over BYU’d Defense comes from what they did last season (one of the worst in the nation). I have given them credit for being #30 in 2006 and # 20 in 2007, both years in which I was very impressed.

You bring up a good point about the conference issue. FSU was an independent for a while which helped with the scheduling issue. BYU needs to continue to do what they are doing. Next year, go play @ LSU or @ Michigan, or @ Virginia Tech or @ Texas. Shock the nation. Again.

by Bud Elliott on Sep 16, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you, sir

I moved back to Colorado (my home state) after 4 years in Big 10 territory. After being baptized in the crazy-world of passionate-college-football-fan-dom, I came back, and, shocked by the lack of swagger, created a Mountain-Time-Zone focused football blog/scatalogical endeavor (karatefistsandbeans.wordpress.com). Feel free to visit it, or not. But in any case, this geographical area of sports needs a SERIOUS injection of swagger. TCU can be great, not good. Ditto BYU. Ditto Utah. Sometimes, ditto others in the MWC. In any case, MWC deserves the respect BCS conferences get (we can ALL agree that the Big East is 100% weaksauce), and the only impediment to that is this old-fogey notion that what happened in the 70’s between x and y teams makes a difference today. BYU is good, no matter what might’ve happened to them in 1999. My goal and mission in my (blogging) life is to inject that confidence, that cockiness, into a group of schools that, up to this point, have felt like they have to defend themselves rather than strut their stuff.

Also, please don’t thank me for the ND defeat. The joy was all the team’s, and the fact that Michigan won and Ohio St., Notre Dame, AND Michigan St. lost on the same day is far more than this fan deserves.

"You're excited? Feel these nipples!"
-Bob Costas

by karatefistsandbeans on Sep 17, 2009 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

BYU's defense

BYU has incorperated many aspects TCU and Utah use intheir defense this offseason, and teh results are showing.

If you are using last years defense as the measure of what you are expecting this year you are in for a surprise.

I am not looking forward to this years Utah’s offense vs. this years BYU defense. I don’t think Utah score 48 points this year.

by utesfan100 on Sep 17, 2009 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

face it the acc is stuck with medicore teams

there might be one team that wins 10 games in the acc. i expect nebraska to beat va tech this weekend and you have two of the worst fbs members in virginia and maryland. add that with kansas state and iowa state in the big 12. washington state in the pac ten. mississippi state in the sec. indiana in the big ten. louisville and rutgers in the big east. the acc will be stuck with mostly 6-8 win totals and it only takes 6 wins to get to a bowl. there are 32 of them now. so telleing me fsu plays 10 bowl teams is not that impressive. also, ucla might be pretty good. they defeated a sec team in their backyard. also, byu win vs okie was to me technically(i’m sure most other people) a road game. i’m sure okie’s roster has at least 50% texans on it. john swofford will be eating crow again when the mwc goes three wins no losses to their conference. i compare john swofford to bahgdad bob. he will claim the high ground on his podium at the end of the year when it’s obvious we have won the war and have surpassed your expectations. peace out! ramble on!

by wolfmanshowlforever on Sep 16, 2009 8:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Really, only 6 wins for a bowl isn't that impressive for any conference.

So when considering SOS, the criteria is used across the board.

You can’t isolate FSU’s schedule on this matter.

For the record, FSU’s OOC schedule next year? Oklahoma, BYU, UF

by jasonole59 on Sep 17, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

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