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That Was So Ugly...Why Did It Happen?

We've now had more than 48 hours to digest the massacre of Saturday night--and it still hurts. Somehow being a Cougar fan, and a Utah Jazz fan, we've become used to feeling crushingly low. If you're a fan of either, you know exactly what I mean. Though getting whooped by three touchdowns and losing in Provo for the first time in 18 games hurts, time and reason are numbing the pain. Here's why...

First off, all you who are calling for Jaime Hill's head on a platter (I know who some of you are), relax. We praised him the first two weeks of the season after two incredibly well-coached games. He's a fantastic coach, and his scheme wasn't the problem on Saturday. During Monday's press conference, Bronco said there were 27 missed assignments by his players--27!!! How many points did that lead to? Any logical guess would be at least two touchdowns--ouch! For whatever reason, and I'm sure in part because of coaching, the players found themselves out of position and "not executing at a high enough level to win the game" (Bronco has said that so many times now that simply rolled off the tip of my tongue)...

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Encouragingly, Bronco mentioned, "I was disappointed with our loss," said Mendenhall. "But, again, after watching film, I'm as or more optimistic than ever about our football team, about our future and about reaching our goals." He can say that now as his toughest test won't come for another month, again at home against TCU. But seriously, let's just relax and chalk one up to bad positioning and overconfident play.

 

Secondly, and perhaps even more frustrating than the defense, were the extremely costly turnovers. Anytime a team gives up 5 turnovers they have absolutely no business winning the game, no matter the opponent. You give a team like FSU 5 "gimmies" and you give up 54 points. Three specifically come to mind as turning the tide: Max Hall, Jan Jorgensen and O'Neil Chambers.

Max Hall: I'll take it easy on you because I know Pitta was being "held" or whatever, but throwing an pick-six right to a defender to start the second half killed the team. This was the defining moment of the game.

Jan Jorgensen: What are you doing carrying the ball and challenging a defender on a kickoff? Your stupid decision cost us points and momentum going into half time. Leave the returning up to Cham....oh wait.

O'Neil Chambers: Dude, you've got to stop fumbling the ball inside the 5-yard line. It kills us, and it kills your team. Run lower to the ground and do hand exercises during class. Your tricky catch at midfield over a corner was sweet, but your fumble earlier hurt badly. 

So, all in all, Saturday was what it was--a bad game against a good team. We move on. BYU can still run the table and finish 11-1, going to a BCS game--it's going to take help now, but it can happen. All of the sudden, the night that Boise St. visits Tulsa is one very important night for BYU, as is October 24th and November 28th.

Here's to hoping we don't have to spend another friggin' Christmas in Vegas!

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Vegas Bowl...

I, too, have come to loathe the Vegas bowl and it’s mediocrity. However….I was looking over the Pac-10 standings today. With USC’s loss, I don’t see more than one Pac-10 team going to a BCS bowl. This pushes down from the top a lot of talent. This year, UCLA, Washington, USC, Oregon, and Cal have decent teams. I wouldn’t mind seeing BYU play any of these teams right now (like this week). If that holds true til the end of the season and we do (siiiiiggggghhhh) go to the Vegas bowl again, it might not be such a bad thing this year.

by heyjoe! on Sep 21, 2009 7:29 PM PDT reply actions  

eh...

the Vegas bowl still pulls in the #5 Pac 10 team. Given that I think we’ll end up playing UCLA or Stanford. Both will be fortunate to finish as a .500 team. UCLA had a great win (by the way, did you their QB Prince is LDS? How’d we miss that kid?) in Tennessee but will most likely end up losing to Washington, USC, Cal, Arizona, and Oregon. Stanford I think will just squeak in, they’re pretty inconsistent though. We’ll see. I’m praying that we go San Diego and play somebody else.

by vaughnzipper on Sep 22, 2009 4:38 PM PDT reply actions  

i think if tcu beats clemson they will run.......

the table in the mwc schedule. we need for them to go 12-0 so we have somone other than utah representing the mwc and goto a bcs bowl. i would not like byu going to the vegas bowl again. it was obvious last year vs arizona they did not want to be there. motivation is 70% of bowl success. does anybody know if ben olsen is even playing football anymore? the last i heard from him is when utah blewout ucla at home and broke his jaw. prince also has a broken jaw for ucla. hopefully the emerald bowl or something for byu. a change of scenery would be nice. peace out. ramble on!

by wolfmanshowlforever on Sep 22, 2009 10:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Ben Olson...

What a bust! a few weeks before “pro-day” in LA he re-injured his foot and wasn’t able to show his stuff. He’s totally out of football. He should have stayed at BYU, but hindsight is always 100 percent.
I’m still holding out hope that BYU, if they run the table, can get to a BCS game. Enough top-tier teams are losing, and have already lost, to where it may be possible for a one-loss non-AQ BCS team can get in…we’ll see. It’s a long season.

by Layton on Sep 23, 2009 11:50 AM PDT reply actions  

Vegas bowl....ugh

Here’s hoping we don’t end up there again. Didn’t TCU go to the Cotton bowl in 05. Maybe we could swing that if we don’t get into a BCS bowl? As for Ben; in hindsight I am so glad he left BYU and went to UCLA.

by Couga on Sep 23, 2009 5:57 PM PDT reply actions  

d-line dominated

I was there and from what I saw, besides all the miscues, was BYU’s d-line got dominated. Therein lies a huge problem. Playing with 3 down lineman means that you blitz backers literally on every play. If your 3 down lineman are getting handled, that means that at least 2 o-lineman are getting to the next level and blocking linebackers. This means that on most plays most linebackers are taken out of the play. This was evident as we saw Ponder take 10+ yards scrambling whenever he wanted.
This added to the plethora of mistakes made for an ugly showing on the BYU side.

Looking at the season though this game was two plays away from a totally different feel. If Oklahoma makes their field goal and beats BYU, and Florida State catches the ball on the last play that hit him in the hands then FSU is ranked top 20 and BYU is not ranked and the loss is expected. So the rankings don’t really tell the whole story.

Make all the excuses you want. When push comes to shove BYU got outplayed at every position last sat.

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by danbyu1 on Sep 25, 2009 7:36 PM PDT reply actions  

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