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A Fond Farewell to BYU coach, Jaime Hill?

In my time with the BYU Cougars I was able to be around coach Jaime Hill for 2 seasons.  In those two seasons coach Hill taught me a lot about football and prepared me very well for my coverage assignments each week, even though he was not my position coach.  I admired the man for his wealth of knowledge and his ability to transfer that knowledge to his players.  

While it was surprising to me so see coach Bronco Mendenhall take such a drastic step, especially mid year, it may not be as much about blaming coach Hill as we think.  It may be that he was just not cut out for the job as a defensive coordinator.  

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In 2001 I was a redshirt freshman under coach Gary Crowton.  A man many BYU fans despise for not living up to expectations.  In my brief time with coach Crowton (I left on a mission after 2001 and returned for one more season under Crowton in 2004) he had a great positive impact on my life.  I know there are others who feel that coach Crowton did more to prepare them for the NFL than any other coach, but my feeling is that he is a better position coach and coordinator than he is a head coach.   The responsibilities of the entire team were either too much, or too outside his comfort zone.  So what does this have to do with Jaime Hill?

As I stated before, I felt Jaime Hill was a fantastic resources for understanding the zone coverages in the 3-4 defense.  But just because a man is an expert in one area, may not qualify him for taking over the entire scheme.  There were times when I would be asking Coach Hill questions, and he would ask why I was lined up in a certain position instead of aligning for better pass coverage.  My response would be something like, "Well the offense is in a tight I formation so I have to be in the box for the run," or something along those lines.  It was always obvious that his emphasis was more on the pass coverage than the run defense.  But I wouldn't hold that against him.  After all he was the secondary coach and it was his job to make sure we were sound in our pass defense.  I feel like there must have been similar things going on behind closed doors, where the defense as a whole had some flaws because he may have been focused on just one aspect.  For someone who knows our defense there have been times this season when you could see the lack of execution in coverages or adjustments that in the past have not been there.  I get blaming the lack of experience of the players, but this makes me wonder if like coach Crowton, Coach Hill is just better suited for a position coach job.  

Another thing that has changed in the BYU defense is the lack of intensity and physicality.  In my eyes there has been a drop in the effort, not just the execution.  Of all things, this is the one that would really irk coach Mendenhall.  When he was the defensive coordinator that was the #1 focus, EFFORT.  Interestingly enough, when I listen to Rocky Long (San Diego St. Aztecs defensive coordinator) talk on the radio shows down here, that is what he keeps pointing to as what will turn (has turned) SDSU's defense around. 

But how do these two things warrant coach Hill being fired, instead of just changing him back to a defensive backs coach?  To me the only answer is the egos of all involved.  After all this is football, the one great place left to manifest our inner manhood.

Coach Mendenhall taking over?  This is the obvious choice.  He knows the defense better than anyone.  He was the defensive coordinator who installed the defense.  He has the ability to make guys play hard, because he will not accept anything less.  There is no better option inside or outside the program than Coach Mendenhall.  When he first made the switch he was reluctant.  He didn't want to give up his baby.  As you may remember there was one year of sort of "dual" coordinators and then finally he turned it over 100%.  Quite frankly the defensive track record has suffered since the hand off, not just this year.

My prediction for next year?  I think Coach Mendenhall hires away Micah Alba (Fresno State Bulldogs DB Coach) as BYU's new secondary coach and Coach Mendenhall continues as the defensive coordinator.  Micah Alba is a very intelligent coach and someone who fits right into the Bronco Mendenhall philosophy of football.  

Although I am shocked to see Coach Hill get fired, I am very excited to start watching a fast, furious, physical defense who plays with fanatical effort once again.  

Here's to the future of BYU football.  My confidence is restored in the season.  

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physicality

Totally agree about the loss of physicality and aggression on the defense. That was the most glaring aspect of the Utah State game. Jan jorgensen said on the radio Friday that Bronco and Rocky Long demanded physical play. He said that the New Mexico games were always the most physical games of the year. I hope it doesn’t take long to get the Cougs turned around.

by heyjoe! on Oct 3, 2010 5:11 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

interesting

It’s good to hear your perspective. I hope that they can get back to playing hard, physical, ball by tomorrow evening.

Seeing how the offense has dropped in production as well, (receivers/TEs getting pushed around, not getting open, dropping balls, o line not opening running lanes as well as they have, running backs not getting short yards up the middle as much), what do you think Coach Anae’s reaction has been?

by Ndubba on Oct 3, 2010 5:30 PM PDT reply actions  

The Offense may be a little different

I think there is more patience with the offense, or at least there has to be, because while they are making a lot of mistakes, they are all very young. Heaps, Holt, Hoffman (just realized our offense will soon be known as “Triple H”). I would like to see more accountability from our receivers in terms of trying to MAKE PLAYS instead of winning an Oscar to draw a flag.

Both sides need a lot of improvement though, that is certain. Totally agree that we need to be physical in short yardage. You’re not worth much as an offense if you can’t pick up 1 yard at least 80% you need it.

by Staffieri on Oct 3, 2010 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Staffieri can you..

give us a prediction on the year’s final win-loss record? I say 6-6.

by JS_Tru on Oct 3, 2010 6:51 PM PDT reply actions  

As it Stands right now...

I see us losing to SDSU, then TCU. Close game against Wyoming, but we win. We then beat UNLV and have a tough game against Colorado State, but sneak out a win. Finally we beat New Mexico and I don’t know about Utah yet, because they have not been tested, so I don’t know how good they really are.

I honestly feel like this is going to be a 5-7 team if they do not improve in a hurry. Having Coach Mendenhall take over the defense gives me a million times more confidence in our ability to turn things around. He flat out won’t settle for mediocrity, or lack of effort. It may take a week to get things back to normal, but it will happen.

by Staffieri on Oct 3, 2010 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Micah Alba

A link to his professional bio (here)….that would be an interesting hire if it happens.

by heyjoe! on Oct 3, 2010 7:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Why I think it happens

Coach Mendenhall coached Micah and Micah was a star pupil. Micah was an extremely intelligent player and a true technician. I not only knew him as a teammate but also as a coach. He was a GA while I finished playing. There is nobody better to coach a Bronco Mendenhall secondary.

I see Coach M going back to coaching the nose tackles/D Coord. because the Nose Tackle is crucial to the 3-4, and it is a unique position from the other D Linemen, so it allows better coaching from Coach Kaufusi, to focus solely on the edge rush8

by Staffieri on Oct 3, 2010 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would like this

Alba would be a perfect fit. I think the idea with alba as the secondary coach and Bronco as DC would work. Alba is young and could be groomed for a future at BYU.

by cougpin on Oct 5, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fixing the wrong problem

The defense isn’t good, but I really don’t think it’s the problem. In our 4 loses the D has been on the field for an average of over 35 minutes per game and the opponents starting field position has been their 33 yard line. The defense has been given on the field for long stretches in tough conditions and has looked like it. On top of that against USU the defense was playing without 3 of it’s top 4 players (Fuga, Pendleton, and Rich) and it showed – USU was able to gash the D up the middle repeatedly, which then opened up the play-action and the outside.

The one area where I really do blame the defense, however, it on 3rd downs. BYU is currently 112th in the country and just can’t seem to get opposing teams off the field. That seems like an area where Bronco can make some immediate impact.

by Mendenhall4Pres on Oct 4, 2010 9:31 AM PDT reply actions  

Agree to a point

Yes the offense is terrible also, and yes the defense has been on the field for long stretches, but that is also due to the defense not getting out of drives, as you noted. It would be one thing if the defense went out and stopped teams and then three plays and a punt later had to go back out on the field. Then I could see them being tired late in the game. But they are not making plays to get rested either. Make no mistake both sides of the ball are in deep trouble.

by Staffieri on Oct 4, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is your confidence really restored?

BYU is facing a 4-1 San Diego State team and a 5-0 5th ranked TCU team. They will lose both of these games extending their losing streak to 6 games. They might have a chance over Wyoming, and hopefully BYU beats New Mexico, UNLV, and Colorado State. You can kiss the Utah game goodbye. If your confidence is really restored you must be talking about the UNLV New Mexico Colorado State stretch. Good job then BYU. You guys got your confidence back against three teams who should be ashamed to call themselves FBS teams.

GO UTES

by who_am_i_sir? on Oct 4, 2010 10:11 AM PDT reply actions  

As much as I hate to agree with a Ute

he’s right. Firing Hill doesn’t restore my confidence at all. A win against San Diego would be a start.

by Mendenhall4Pres on Oct 4, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Say what?

This from a team who has not played a quality opponent yet. I am not saying Utah is bad, but you’re only wins are against those shameful FBS teams. You will probably point to Pitt as a quality win, but that was a close game in over time to a team whose only wins this year are also against horrific teams (New Hampshire? Florida International?)

Nobody really knows just how good Utah is yet. And nobody will know for another couple weeks since your next 3 games are against, Iowa State, Wyoming and CSU.

BYU’s opponents combined records?
17-7 with 4 of those losses coming to teams ranked in the top 8 of the country (3 to Oklahoma)
BYU also has played 3 teams in the top 25

Utah’s opponents combined record?
7-17 with 4 of those 7 wins coming against teams in 1-AA or just plain atrocious (New Mexico)

So while I don’t think BYU is a great team this year, I also am not buying into the Utah hype just yet.

Let’s revisit this discussion after you play Air Force.

by Staffieri on Oct 4, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not up to the hype?

Utah held a preseason potential Heisman running back to his worst game of his career. Against San Jose State, Utah had no turnovers and only one penalty called the entire game. Utah had an easier time beating a pitiful San Jose State team easier than number one ranked Alabama. I don’t care whether you’re playing San Jose State, Alabama, or the high school team down the street. One five yard penalty in an entire game shows the discipline and strength this team has. Air Force will be tough, but discipline wins football games.

by the way I just want to compliment BYU on their fantastic farewell tour

GO UTES

by who_am_i_sir? on Oct 4, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

amazing

This IS quite the list of accomplishments. Its amazing BYU even defeated this powerful Ute team last year. How did we ever rise to such heights?

by heyjoe! on Oct 4, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great Question

I’m trying to figure out how you guys didn’t beat us by more. The most winning quarterback in the program’s history, Dennis Pitta, Harvey Unga and playing at home and you barely won in overtime to a rebuilding Utah team.

by who_am_i_sir? on Oct 4, 2010 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow! Even after the BCS conference invite, you just can't shake the inferiority complex.

Maybe you are confused and think the BYU-Utah game is this week? Why else would a Ute fan be trolling this board? Our team is struggling, but none of our players are as embarrassing and classless as a guy who has to go trolling.

Dear Mods, please welcome all-comers who contribute to a meaningful conversation, but be quick to ban the trolls. One of the best things about VTF is that there is no reason to put up with haters. This is a site for Coug fans and intelligent conversation.

by Blue2th on Oct 4, 2010 6:29 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Inferiority complex?

I think BYU is the one with the inferiority complex. Utah gets the BCS invite and BYU can’t stand it. You guys jump ship and go independent just trying to catch up with Utah. I think you need to look in the mirror before you start dishing out comments about an inferiority complex.

by who_am_i_sir? on Oct 4, 2010 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Please come back the week of the Utah game. Perhaps then we'll have something to talk about.

Until then you’ll fail to convince anybody you’re not BYU-obsessed as a Ute fan hanging out at VTF.

by Blue2th on Oct 4, 2010 10:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I Tend to agree with this

BYU’s schedule was front-loaded, with Utah’s back-loaded. I don’t pay attention to the rankings until about week 7 or 8, because I don’t think the first half of this season is a good indication about how good most teams are (Especially with SEC OOC schedules).

I do think PITT was a legit team when Utah played them, with their 2 all-americans being healthy, and I still think that PITT will be ranked at the end of the year (We’ll see).

Don’t get me wrong. I believe Utah will run the table this year (And have since before the season began) and get into the Rose Bowl, but I don’t think they are a legitimate top 10 team yet based on what they have done.

I also think the NC is Auburn and Oregon. Just to put it on the record. Wish I had written that down 5 weeks ago, because I have believed this the entire season as well, and my wife is my witness.

I don't pour beer on Max Hall's family often, but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.

by jim2 on Oct 5, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Some modest proposals

I was surprised that the one big change the day after the game was sacking the head of the defense. Could we try keeping our offense on the field, thereby keeping the opponents’ offenses off the field, thereby reducing their offensive output? When I was a freshman at BYU in 1969, we were so bad that for the first half of season (as I recall) the defense had outscored the offense; the cheerleaders had us yelling, “The best offense is a good defense.” Maybe now, in contrast, the best defensive move would be to have an offense. We’re making progress, though: we averaged 15 points per game in the first four games and we scored 16 points against USU. Clearly a problem with Coach Hill’s defense.
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A couple of suggestions:

  • Hire an anger-management coach to resolve whatever issues the players-listed-as-receivers have that lead them to REFUSE to catch passes that hit their hands.
  • Explain to the players-listed-as-receivers which sport is played on the rectangular field with the lines running across it. Heaps throws as hard as a baseball pitcher; maybe they’re looking for a free walk to first base for being hit by a thrown ball. Some of them didn’t look like they were trying all that hard to avoid being hit, others clearly were.
    .
    In LaVell’s glory days of the 1980’s we beat teams by scoring more points than they scored. I believe this formula still could work. At least, given where we are this season, it would be worth experimenting with this idea.

by manaen on Oct 4, 2010 11:02 AM PDT reply actions  

Amen...

I am starting to get the feel that our “players-listed-as-receivers” are more interested in drawing flags, than they are in just making the catch and declining any pending penalties.

Call me crazy, but I would rather have 10 catches for 130 yards than 4 catches for 20 yards and 6 PI’s thrown on DBs who guard me…just sayin’

by Staffieri on Oct 4, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

This whole comment made me laugh, so thanks for that.

I really hope at least a couples of the players-listed-as-receivers can make the jump to actual receivers. It’s a crazy notion, but it might just work.

by holly96 on Oct 4, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Confusion

At first I was a little suprised when I heard about the firing, since the offense seemed to be struggling more than the defense. After thinking about it though, I realized that the expectations on the defense were much higher than they were on the offense because of the inexperience at QB. While the offensive output has been disappointing, the defense has really not measured up to expectations. They were supposed to be better than they have been. You’re explanation illuminates other issues that I had not considered with regard to the defensive drop.

by ElwinJ on Oct 4, 2010 12:05 PM PDT reply actions  

It seems

The entire BYU offensive system is predicated on one thing: the QB and catching the ball. When I watch the offense struggle, I see lack of execution due to an 18 year old QB and, inexplicably, receivers not catching the ball. I think Bronco is sure Anae will figure that out. When I watched the defense, though, I saw an increasing lack of desire, a lack of passion. It seemed like the players weren’t just struggling to execute, it seemed like they had become disconnected from their coach. Based on Bronco’s comments today, which of course are somewhat vague to be professional, something was breaking down within the defensive system that he felt was not going to be fixed by Jaime. I think everyone who has played on a sports team has known a coach who was a good person, and even a good coach, but there comes a point where certain breakdowns within the system are caused by frictions with that coach. Change isn’t always bad; often it is good. Hopefully, Anae can get the offense problems fixed. Who coaches our receivers this year? In my mind, he’s the one on the hotseat for coaching performance issues. Much like Mike Tice – the offensive line coach for the Bears. They showed him like 20 times Sunday night on NBC. He looked like, “Oh come on, guys, you’re killing me” every time Cutler got hammered (9 times in the first half!).

by heyjoe! on Oct 4, 2010 12:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Hill got fired because Bronco wants to coach the defense

I think this was more about Bronco wanting to roll up his sleeves and get hands on with the D than any real trouble with Hill. After reading Bronco’s comments I think that if Bronco felt he could step into an offensive coach’s position he would have fired one of the offensive staff rather than Hill. Of course he’s not an offensive coach and the only place he can really make an impact is as the D.C., so Hill had to go to make room for him to take over.

I also get the feeling more and more that Bronco has really completely handed the offense over to Anae and trusts him to run things on that side of the ball.

by Mendenhall4Pres on Oct 4, 2010 1:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Not so fast...

Before Monday I would have agreed slightly with you on this. When I learned about the breakdowns on the defensive side of the ball and was able to gain more insight into what was transpiring on the defense it became clear that this was a move that needed to happen to right the program.

One thing you all have to know is that Coach Mendenhall really liked Coach Hill and wanted him to succeed as a coach, so this decision was not made with ease, or out of haste. This had to be something that he gave a lot of thought to, and probably had given a lot of thought to and was something that I am sure was hard for him to do.

He would not have done it if he didn’t feel with 100% certainty that it was the right thing to do for the program, not just the defense.

by Staffieri on Oct 5, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Shedding Blocks

I have been really disappointed on how poorly our defensive backfield has been able to avoid blocks by the other team. Since you have played at the college level, what are our players taught, and how well have they been performing, in your opinion?

by BYUV on Oct 4, 2010 1:23 PM PDT reply actions  

And is the problem more...

Shedding blocks or tackling once the blocks have been shed. Seems like both have been big problems.

by Blue2th on Oct 4, 2010 10:53 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

TACKLING TACKLING TACKLING

I love the phrase in football that the whole game really just comes down to blocking and tackling. While we are not playing all that physical on defense right now, TACKLING is what I see as the biggest problem. The only exception to this may have been the Utah State game, I honestly can’t recall, I was too disgusted to pay close attention. But in all the other games we had guys at the ball behind or near the LOS and just didn’t make plays.

We had FSU 3rd and 13 late in the game and the RB goes tip toeing down the sideline for 15 yards. All anyone had to do was bump him 3 inches and he would go OB. But our players insisted on diving at his ankles. Pathetic. That WILL change.

by Staffieri on Oct 5, 2010 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really concerned...

I remember when former players were bragging so much on Coach Hill that they thought we wouldn’t be able to keep him because somebody else would pick up since he’s that good. Now we have a precarious situation here where our D-coordinator is fired mid-season. I really hope that there something more involved going on here that only the people involved know about, not just the crappy record. I really hope Coach Mendenhall is not disrespecting Coach Hill just to cover his butt. I’ve always thought of Bronco as the epitome of classy, and this is not that classy. I also don’t think this dramatic of a change mid-season is a great move. Just like making a true freshman a starter our QB, changing up the coaching staff is going to have immediate negative affects. I hope it works out.

by Treylor on Oct 4, 2010 5:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Shock and Awe...

Treylor, let’s just say it DID need to be done, and there will only be positive effects from this decision on the defensive side of the ball.

by Staffieri on Oct 5, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Coach Hill

Great insight Markell. I really like your take on this.
Knowing how Ben feels and felt about coach Hill made this tough on me. I like coach Hill and feel he did a great deal for BYU’s secondary play, especially in ’06 and ’07.
However, also knowing some of the drama that has occurred the last couple of years between him and a few players, makes me wonder about the overall pressures he may have been under too.
Bronco is his own man, a great leader and motivator; so I am sure in the end this will be a good move for BYU overall. I just hope Coach Hill also makes some good lemonade out of what appears to be a sour situation right now. I wish him nothing but the best.
Thanks again for your very insightful thoughts.
 Mike Criddle

by 2thdoc on Oct 4, 2010 5:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Shedding light

For those who have come to believe that Hill being fired had to do with the state of the team’s defense, you are mistaken.
Friday night at Utah State Coach Hill decided during the second half that he no longer wanted to coach. He stopped calling plays for the Defense. The boys did not know why nor had they ever anticipated being deserted by their coach and Mendenhall was as confused as they were. After the game Hill had no excuse for what he did and was given the option to resign. He refused to do so and insisted that he be fired. That’s why he was terminated. Let’s not say silly things like “Hill was fired bc Mendenhall wanted to run the D” or that the firing was because BYU’s losing so they needed a scapegoat.

On a side note: although I am a huge BYU fan I also love the Utes. I know, most wont understand that but whatever. The reason I point this out is bc I’d like to respectfully ask the Ute fans not to troll these boards. I personally wish your team the best. Y fans, let’s not troll their boards either.

by tama samoa on Oct 6, 2010 11:06 AM PDT reply actions  

Confirmed

Tama, i don’t know how you received your intel, but just so that other fans don’t rip him for rumors, I can confirm what he wrote about Coach Hill, I was however not at liberty to write that. It made me really sad to hear it.

by Staffieri on Oct 8, 2010 8:44 AM PDT reply actions  

Inside info

Staffieri – my brother, a cousin, and several friends of mine are on the team, I am friends with a few coaches and one of them is my dad’s cousin. Because I am around them all the time, I hear everything that happens with the team. However, my brother found out I posted that info about Coach Hill and asked me to keep things confidential from now on. I understand why you were not at liberty to write those things and from now on I wont either. I was allowing myself to get annoyed by people who are not in the know’s speculations. From now on, I will not be sharing information I get from the team.

by tama samoa on Nov 15, 2010 11:34 AM PST reply actions  

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