All Hail Boise State...and that Means You Too BYU and Utah
by Prettyman on Sep 7, 2010 5:15 PM PDT
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PrintI couldn't be happier for Boise State after last night's win. It's hard not to like those guys (although, what did Nike do to those uniforms?). They have a great coach, clean program and players that seem to do things the right way. Last night's game will most likely go down as one of the best regular season games this year, and it's only week 1. The crowd and the intensity level on the field were just amazing. My adrenaline was pumping the entire game (just ask my kids, who caught the "adrenaline-afterwrath" [copyright pending] at bed time). And as much as it pains me to admit it, there was a level of speed and explosiveness displayed by both Boise State and Va. Tech that was absent from the BYU/Washington match-up.
I hope everyone in a non-BCS conference is sending up a prayer for Boise State this year. The BCS stinks and Boise State is the only team in the country that has consistently put themselves in a position to do something about it...on the field. They've arrived at this position not after one great season, or in Utah's case, one great season every 4 years but by a consistent 5 year march from obscurity to playing and winning in front of 84,000 fans at FedEx Field in the premier college football game of opening weekend.
While Utah and BYU have sought to find another, shorter route to BCS inclusion, Boise State has simply blossomed where they were planted, in the infertile soil of the Western Athletic Conference. Watching last night's game I realized it doesn't matter to Boise State what conference they are in, they're creating their own destiny, their own image and in some respects they, not BYU, have become the next independent football program in the NCAA....succeeding on their own regardless of their conference affiliation.
So what are Boise State and the other red-headed step-children up against? Well let's just dwell on this one fact and this fact alone: Ohio State or LSU can have one great season and as a result be invited to play in the BCS championship game, regardless of their record the previous season, let alone the past four seasons. But for Boise State it takes 5 years of consistent greatness to finally be in a position to play...scratch that...to finally be in a position to be considered to play for a national title...and who knows if they will even get that invite.
This past season it took Butler 5 games to reach the NCAA Basketball Finals. If Boise State does it this year it will have taken them 55 games. Something's wrong with that picture.
Go get'em Boise State, we're all rooting for you.
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I was at a restaurant in downtown Salt Lake watching the game during dinner. It wasn’t a very busy night at this restaurant so most of the waiters were watching the game. They were all rooting for Virginia Tech though and I couldn’t understand why. My waitress told me she was from Boise but that she was sick of seeing BSU win. WHAT?!? I can not understand that. Every other waiter was also cheering for VT. I tried to reason with a couple of them by telling them that BSU winning would be good for both Utah and BYU and all the other teams in non-AQ conferences but none would hear me out. So I resorted to betting one of the waiters for a free dessert if Boise St. won and of course I enjoyed a delicious chocolate molten lava cake.
For The Love!!
Rise and shout the Cougars are out!!
People are sick of BSU winning, not because of the program or the school, but because of the obnoxious fans.
I’m all for blowing up the BCS, but BSU fans have become so annoying that they are beginning to remind me of Notre Dame fans. Or even BYU fans, I know right!? xD That and really, I know BCS fans use this line, but unfortunately it’s true, who are they playing? 1 maybe 2 games a year are against a quality opponent. Now, this will change when they get to the MWC and I’ll be the first to give them big props if they can continue thier streak. But in the MWC someone in conference will actually challenge them. Can you say TCU? I know Boise fans like to think they’re better than TCU. And clearly the frogs played tight in the Fiesta bowl, and looked nothing like themselves, but in the last two years they’re 1-1 with a grand total of 6 points seperating the two clubs. For all the BSU homers out there, that’s not exactly dominant. I think we’ll also soon see that VT is following thier yearly tradition of being WAY over rated and will lose 3 or more games, which will make this win look much less impressive.
I really want to cheer for BSU, I can’t stand the BCS, and I’m a big under dog guy. But can you BSU fans please stop making me hate your team? kthxbye
Fans
I don’t comment very often, but I’ve read enough posts here and on the UofU and Mountain West blogs to be annoyed at people complaining about other teams fans. This kind of stereotyping is ridiculous. Because you are a fan of Team X, I don’t like you. I am a fan of Team Y, I am automatically better than everyone else. So because I am male, I am _ than women? What about my religion? Or my race? Would most of us really talk this way if it were face to face, or is it because we are basically anonymous we can say whatever we want?
My friend at work hates BYU. Why? He was walking down State Street in Utah County and wearing a Utah State t-shirt and someone in a vehicle with a BYU sticker spit at him and told him Utah State sucks. Was this wrong? Definitely. But is it right to stereotype thousands of people based on one moron’s actions? No.
I already know this post won’t be popular to those who get on here just to cause trouble, but I feel like college sports are a great diversion in life, something we can be a part of that is bigger than ourselves. Maybe we should check our egos at the door and focus more on the sports and creating an atmosphere where the 90% who read the comments but don’t voice their opinion feel more comfortable doing so. I’m pretty sure every team has fans that are pretty awesome, and fans that aren’t, and a lot of times the minority of fans that aren’t awesome seem to be the most vocal.
Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it.
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Curious
But can you BSU fans please stop making me hate your team?
Please provide some examples of the behavior that is unique to Boise fans that you find so annoying.
Read blogs, newspaper articles comment boards etc. and you will see what I'm talking about.
Especially if you go to Utah, BYU newspaper articles in Utah, the BSU fans come out in droves and make comments about BSU’s greatness and how much better they are than BYU/Utah etc.
Please provide some examples of the behavior that is unique to Boise fans that you find so annoying.
It’s not a question of uniqueness, it’s a question of prevelance. See OBNUG for further evidence (although at least the writers over there do it with a sense of humor) Look I have no problem with a fan being a fan of thier team. But for crying out loud, show a little class. You’re coach has MILES of it, take a lesson from him. BSU is a great team, and they deserve consideration but after the first game they’re pounding their chests like they just won the National Championship and simultaneously saying they’re disrespected. It’s game 1 people and you’re already ranked higher than any other non-BCS team has EVER been ranked this early in the season, so get off the ’we’re so disrespected’ line.
Anonymity
Web forums that offer anonymity always bring out obnoxious behavior in people. I do read many blogs and news sites that cover college football. I often read the SL Trib and DesNews, and I have seen those lame comments that you mention. However, as a daily reader of the Idaho Statesman, there are those comments there as well from supposed fans of Boise’s opponents/rivals. I suspect that most of the inflamatory/delusional comments are intended to only rile people up and not seriously engage in discussion. These folks know that we passionately follow our teams and are generally willing to go to bat for them – its our achilles heel. However, they do not really represent the overwhelming majority of any team’s loyal supporters (if they are even supporters at all). Again, I would still be interested in some specific examples (links, citations, etc.) that makes Boise fans uniquely annoying.
. . . they deserve consideration but after the first game they’re pounding their chests like they just won the National Championship . . .
Are you talking about Boise players or their fans?
True annonimity does make idiots of a lot of people.
Definately the fans. The players, especially Moore, are all doing and saying all the right things. As is the coach who I personally think the world of.
Some advice NC Ute
Try not to read the comments on the Idaho Statesman website. That place brings out the worst in BSU fans. And it attracts a lot of U of I fans making it even worse.
"It takes no talent to give great effort" -Chris Petersen
Haha, yeah I've read some of those.
I don’t mind them being obnoxious in thier own house. Just like Ute and Cougar fans get really stupid on the Trib and Des News. I just don’t want them, (or us,) going into the other guys house and being that guy.
Boasting is a necessity
Boise fans boast and are in your face until they officially get recognized. They have had 2 or 3 undefeated seasons now in the last 5-6 years and have yet to be recognized as a national champion, and were even left out of a BCS bowl game one of those years.
People get on their case about not scheduling tough teams, so they schedule tough teams, pound their chests when they win, and then get passed up by a Florida Team that plays Charleston Southern and Central Florida in 2 of their 4 “AWAY” Games. Just now, they beat VT, and now that VT crashed against James Madison, the vast majority of the CFB world is discrediting BSU’s win even though we all know that it was as quality a win as they come. I watched it. VT was NOT the same team against James Madison as they were against BSU. Any fool can see that.
I find Boise St. fans very annoying. But until they start getting credit for their accomplishments, I can’t find fault, because I would be just as loud and obnoxious for my Utes. In fact, in 2008, you bet I had several arguments. I was at Disney World that summer and made it a point to let several Florida Fans wearing a “National Championship” shirt that their shirts were inaccurate, and that Utah was the real national champions that year. Tell me that’s not annoying.
Good job Boise. I hope you go undefeated. I also hope Utah goes undefeated. And that if we have to play each other, it is in the National Championship game.
I don't pour beer on Max Hall's family often, but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.
Boasting to BCS teams maybe, since they don't respect you.
But boasting to fellow non AQ teams that are likewise disenfranchised, respect both your team and your program, and who totally agree with what you’re saying is arrogant and ignorant. I get the ‘we get no respect’ angle, really. But target the right people, don’t just sling your beef out to everyone in your general vecinity.
I'm willing to bet you've never meet one
Talk to the Hokiefans, I’m quite sure they would disagree with you.
Nothing like bleacher seat fans that just hate on someone because they do what your team can’t.
We call that sour grapes.
And yeh I was there.
I would also like to add as someone who was born in Michigan and lived a large part of My life in Idaho, the last time being a rep who ran Idaho Montana Wyoming and Utah, there was one thing I learned about Mormons and people from Utah in general, then Hate the city of Boise, well get over it.
Oh yeh one last thing with the work over wac teams seem to be giving out last weekend and the poor play of the big east I think once BSU becomes the first team in the history of college football to win a national championship at every level. The big east will be out as a automatic bid and the MWC will be in so Utah as I have said before there is nothing special about 1300 south enjoy the cellar of the pac 12 you’ll fit in nicely with Dan Hawkins and byu lol back to the desert with you.
by Darth Prophet on Sep 8, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Mormons don't hate the city of Boise, and neither do people in Utah.
That’s the most rediculous thing I’ve ever seen. Good natured rivalry? Sure. Hate? What are you talking about? And yeah, I have met TONS of Boise fans. You’re a shinning example of what I’m talking about.
Oh yeh one last thing with the work over wac teams seem to be giving out last weekend and the poor play of the big east I think once BSU becomes the first team in the history of college football to win a national championship at every level. The big east will be out as a automatic bid and the MWC will be in so Utah as I have said before there is nothing special about 1300 south enjoy the cellar of the pac 12 you’ll fit in nicely with Dan Hawkins and byu lol back to the desert with you
Congrats, you just proved my point.
Yeah, that Mormons hate Boise is definitely a new one to me.
I’ve personally never cared much about Boise one way or another. But then, I’m also not from Utah, so maybe I missed that memo?
This article deserves a billion recs
From a Bronco fan, I truly appreciate the support. We’ve had a pretty dang good team for a while now. I hope we’ll get lucky at the end of the year.
"It takes no talent to give great effort" -Chris Petersen
I'm sick of BSU
I really am. You can say what you want about BSU helping take down the BCS but they’ve moved past their prime position of doing it. They are now overhyped and overvauled.
I don’t care what anyone says if you’re ranked 3rd at the beginning of the season and go undefeated, you’re not a BCS buster. You are a product of the system at that point. Sure it might help a little but they aren’t the Cinderella darling that showed up out of nowhere .
They are a BCS darling now despite not being in an AQ conference.
For the Love of the Game
Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
I think that is the point of the post
The point is that this #3 ranking and the talk of a NC is BECAUSE of all the BCS busting seasons and the building of a quality program.
You’re right about one thing…they need to be NC busters not BCS busters this year for the #3 pre-season rank to mean anything.
Yea,
But they don’t respect the non AQ conference they only respect BOISE. Which I don’t think is doing anything for busting the BCS anymore.
I think the problem with the BCS busting is one or two schools in poor conferences get respected but the conferences themselves are never consistent.
I was under the belief that the MWC actually had a shot of doing this, especially with the addition of BSU. Consistantency from a non AQ to actually bust the BCS apart. BYU, UTAH, TCU, BOISE, and maybe Air Force had chances to be that and well that all got blown up. So now everything BSU does is pretty much worthless. Now they just seem like the spoiled youngest child in a big family. It’s annoying.
Plus, what is impressive about a team like BSU who’s returned like 20 of 22 starters beating a team like VT who is built on new starters. In the first game of the season? That wasn’t impressive. What was impressive was watching VT bounce back after an awful first quarter to make run at winning the game.
Plus their Jersey’s were siiiiiiick. I wish BYU could wear black uniforms.
For the Love of the Game
Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
Maybe a few things
Plus, what is impressive about a team like BSU who’s returned like 20 of 22 starters beating a team like VT who is built on new starters. In the first game of the season?
Maybe doing so in a hostile environment.
Maybe doing so with a much smaller football budget.
Maybe doing so with overlooked, lightly recruited players.
Maybe doing so against the #10 ranked team in the country.
Maybe doing so against an ACC title contender/dark horse NC contender
There were PLENTY of BSU fans at that game. Sure there were plenty of VT fans and they had the majority but it wasn’t nearly ast hostile as playing on VT’s home turf.
You can take the best recruited freshman and stick them on a field vs. a lightly recruited batch of seniors and most of the time the Seniors are going to have their way. VT is going to get better as the season goes on and as they get experience but BSU totally had the advantage of experience. I don’t care how lightly recruited their team is made up, they’ve played in BCS games over the last couple years and they know what to expect. VT didn’t and that was obvious after the first quarter.
BSU was the #3 ranked team…. sure VT was 10 but 3 is alot higher than 10 is.
I stand by my previous statement, what BSU did was alot less impressive to me than what VT did.
For the Love of the Game
Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
I don't know
I love the graphic ESPN put up that showed the distances between schools. And there were at least 10x as many fans from VT.
I do like your points on the BCS…the old way of busting is gone, especially with Utah leaving and BYU going indy. Now it is on the shoulders of TCU and Boise to get the MWC the respect it deserves.
My hope to do away with the BCS altogether is for TCU and Boise to end up in the NC game. That would shake the BCS boys. That is my main reason for rooting for TCU and Boise this year. If only one of them makes it, it won’t work…they have to play each other for the NC game.
Agreed.
TCU didn’t look that great in their first game though. Utah, BYU, and Airforce all looked just as good. I think TCU loses a tough one this year.
I freakin hate the BCS. It’s like there is no winning with them.
For the Love of the Game
Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
Huh?
There were PLENTY of BSU fans at that game. Sure there were plenty of VT fans and they had the majority but it wasn’t nearly ast hostile as playing on VT’s home turf.
The highest estimate that I saw was 12,000 Bronco fans. FedEx Field seats over 91,000; while Lane Stadium seats over 66,000. So there were actually 13,000 more Hokie fans at this game than at games in Blacksburg. They played “Enter Sandman” as the Hokies took the field, just like at Lane. This was a home game for VT.
You can take the best recruited freshman and stick them on a field vs. a lightly recruited batch of seniors and most of the time the Seniors are going to have their way.
Check the depth chart for VT, they aren’t all freshman or sophomores. Sure they are breaking in new starters, but they aren’t wide-eyed 18 and 19 year olds.
BSU was the #3 ranked team…. sure VT was 10 but 3 is alot higher than 10 is.
Yes, just like being the 113th team in FBS is a lot higher than 120th. The difference between 3 and 10 out of 120 is not really “a lot higher.”
I realize that I am not going to convince you that Boise’s performance was impressive or to stop dissing them. Just hoping you will cast off some unfounded reasoning.
I said there was plenty
12,000 fans took a 2,000 mile + trip to support Boise State. That’s a pretty good margin. I tcould have been alot worse.
How is it unfounded? It looked exactly like what it was. Boise State, a veteran squad came out from the beginning with swagger that VT lacked. VT recovered and got into their groove and for the next 2- 2 1/2 quarters was winning the battle.
It takes alot more to comeback in a game as a bunch of new starters in their FIRST game of the season, than it does for Veteran players to do it after 2-3 years of having played at level. Especially after having gone undefeated the season before and winning a BCS game.
It should have been expected for BSU to win that game and dominate. Not win it overtime after letting VT come back from a 17 point deficit. That’s not that impressive….
I fail to see what’s unreasonable about that. Obviously I didn’t know the exact numbers of attendence or the depth chart of VT cause I’m only a casual fan, but STILL. You expect veteran teams who have a history of success to win even in hostile environments and especially against a relatively fresh team.
For the Love of the Game
Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
Casual
They are now overhyped and overvauled
I’m not sure how you can be a casual fan and then make statements like the above – ones that should require hard evidence to back them up.
The spread leading up to the game was 2 1/2 points in Boise’s favor. At game time it was even. Boise was never expected to dominate this game – in fact most predicted a VT victory. A simple Google search can provide the proof.
Actually
Boise was predicted to be the winner up untill like 2 weeks before and then VT was predicted to be the winner. I too watched the Pre Game show where they mentioned that.
That’s exactly what an ignorant and casual fan would say, overhyped and overvalued without any proof. I don’t like them. I’ve already said that and that’s really the only justification I should need for saying they are overhyped and overvalued.
I also expect Oregon State or Nevada to beat them as well. I guess that would prove my previous statement.
For the Love of the Game
Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
VT is currently struggling very bad against
James Madison. In fact they are losing late.
Which makes BSU’s win against VT even less impressive.
For the Love of the Game
Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
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