BYU scores last in MWC in Academic Progress Rates
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The APR rates are in and it's not pretty this time around for BYU. BYU's score was 929, the lowest in the Mountain West, and just 5 points higher than the threshold where the team can lose scholarships due to poor academic progress. That score puts them a whopping 17 points below Utah State and 27 points behind Utah, their in-state competition.
The way the score is calculated is as follows. The team has 85 scholarships, each scholarship-ed player gets 1 point for remaining in school and 1 point for remaining academically eligible. That number is then multiplied by 1000 to give the final score.
With a score of 929, BYU achieved a pre-division, pre-multiplication score of 158 out of 170 meaning that 12 points were lost to academically ineligible players or players no longer with the team due to poor academic performance. (or so I assume, the rules aren't clear on the NCAA's website if a transferring player counts against the total)
I realize that this metric is in a way fundamentally flawed since the difficulty level at BYU is not the same as the difficulty level at say Georgia, but this still concerns me. Does anyone know what to make of this? Why did BYU score so low? Do departing transfers count against the total? Bueller?
Here is a link to the results on ESPN.
It should be noted that BYU's basketball team scored a 991, the highest score in the conference. Just 1 point above Utah, the second place finisher. Both teams are a whopping 27 points above Air Force, the third place finisher.
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Guy in the comments says this is from Wikipedia.
Collegiate sports teams that fail to achieve an APR score of 925 – equivalent to a 50% graduation rate – may be penalized with the loss of scholarships. A perfect score is 1000. The scores are calculated as follows:
The APR is calculated by allocating points for eligibility and retention — the two factors that research identifies as the best indicators of graduation. Each player on a given roster earns a maximum of two points per term, one for being academically eligible and one for staying with the institution. A team’s APR is the total points of a team’s roster at a given time divided by the total points possible. Since this results in a decimal number, the CAP decided to multiply it by 1,000 for ease of reference. Thus, a raw APR score of .925 translates into the 925 that will become the standard terminology.
I wonder if this includes players that have been suspended due to non-academic reasons. Like NC Ute says transfers could play a role. And BYU’s academics are better than many schools. (Including the U and USU. Depending on the program.)
Even though we are just 4 points from losing scholarships I wouldn’t worry too much about it. I’m sure the administration and AD are working to stay above the 925 mark.
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It'd be interesting to see historical rates for this info based on sport
Is there any sort of a trend going on? Are we consistently at the low end of our conference, or was this a down year?
The NCAA only started using this metric about a year or two ago.
So I don’t think there’s much history to go over. But it would be interesting to see how well our athletes are historically doing academically.
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by sabbi on May 25, 2011 11:15 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I thought we were always good academically..
NC Ute brought up a good point with BYU being a tough school. I got all A’s without blinking in my Georgia high school and I had to work my butt off to stay alive my first year at BYU. And that’s taking the difficulty change into account. I consciously told myself before getting there, “I will have to work harder than I did in high school to make it at BYU.” I knew it and it still shocked me my first year. I imagine that could be a factor here.
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by Harrison0Yfan on May 25, 2011 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think this is a big deal in the short term.
On any given year a player or three could bomb out and that’s not really a reflection of the institution. If it becomes a trend however, that’s definitely a cause for concern.
For those wondering as I was if a transfer counted against the total...
From the Deseret News article on APR rankings
Under APR guidelines, a player who transfers from an institution in good academic standing does not negatively impact the APR of either the former or the new school.
From what I understand....
BYU will always do poorly in the APR because the APR does not factor in players who leave on missions. In the APR people who leave on missions are “no longer with the institution”. Additionally, normal colleges graduate entering freshmen in four to five years. With BYU that might be six or seven years from the day freshmen players start until they play their final game. That is not “academic progress” of student athletes according to the NCAA.
Ohhhhhhhhhh
If that’s true it makes so much sense. It’s kind of like dropping out for two years then coming back.
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We're gonna have to do something about that.
It’s unacceptable for the NCAA to penalize us for something that’s an integral part of our culture, if it comes to that.
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by Harrison0Yfan on May 25, 2011 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
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I ‘m not sure that’s it, exhibit A. BYU’s other teams scored exceptionally high.
Are football players the only ones that DO go on missions? I understand they have more players than any other team so the incidence of missions would also be higher. But it seems like it would have affected other sports as well, and there were several sports that scored a perfect score.

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