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Church Ball, Indeed: Officials and Fans Clash During Loss to St. Mary's

There are boos, and there are Boos. This was the latter. During Saturday's loss to St. Mary's, BYU fans demonstrated that Mormons can indeed get angry - and that you don't want to see them angry - by giving both opponents and referees a jeering that abandoned sportsmanlike respect and culminated in their hurling debris onto the court. Did the person who offered the pre-game prayer forget to ask for help maintaining good sportsmanship?

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BYU fans had this game circled on their calendars ever since BYU's December loss at St. Mary's - a game that many BYU fans felt was too heavily influenced by penalties on what they considered reasonable levels of physical play. Fans couldn't wait to get St. Mary's in their own gym and tell referees how they felt about their officiating, but officials sent a message of their own by calling a technical foul on the home crowd after fans ignored a warning to cease throwing debris.

It was like a bad Internet forum discussion: mutual respect was replaced with animosity and a power struggle that neither side could win. The crowd grew ever more unruly in their frustration with officiating, and officials attempted to exert control by making increasingly unreasonable calls.

The tension on display Saturday has several causes.

Zach Bloxham has examined some of the differences in style of play between BYU's old conference, the Mountain West, and its current one, the West Coast Conference. Those differences constitute one factor in the rift between fans and conference officials. BYU is used to playing the UNLVs, SDSUs, and New Mexicos of the world and dispensing physical play of their own. On top of that, BYU isn't used to losing many conference games. To fall twice now to a conference foe that plays a finesse game just isn't something to which BYU fans are accustomed. That frustration is understandable - even good.

Plans to make their voices heard, however, amount to fans' desire to change the culture of the current conference rather than find ways to win given its style of play. While it is reasonable to expect mutual adjustment over time, and while fans are well within their right to voice displeasure at what they consider poor officiating, there is a degree of arrogance in a new member of a conference demanding that everyone else accommodate them. The class that led BYU fans to congratulate visiting Baylor for their recent Heisman trophy - an act that elicited praise from Baylor players and fans alike - was absent Saturday. After the BYU/Baylor game, some Baylor fans declared that the respect they witnessed made them want to be BYU fans. It's safe to say the Marriott Center crowd damaged any opportunity BYU had to earn similar respect from the Gaels.

Consider some of the fan energy a sign that BYU has a healthy program. BYU fans want to win and expect to win, and that is extremely positive. On Saturday, the Marriott Center crowd helped the team as much as it hurt. It kept the team energized and hungry and helped them to a partial comeback. Unfortunately, fans were undisciplined and overreaching in their desire to win, and they harmed both the team's chance for victory and the chance to establish a respectful relationship between BYU and its new conference mate.

That may be the biggest loss of all.

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The fans should be ashamed for what they did

That was just pathetic. I hate seeing garbage like that, no pun intended.

That aside, I’m not sure I’ve ever seen worse officiating! I think the refs were taking out their frustrations with the fans on the players. I have never seen the refs be sooooo touchy with the whistle. Not only that but numerous times they threw out a phantom foul that really just got under the skin (ie Anson Winders call that they showed like 3 times where he had like 6 inches of seperation).

I am totally ashamed for the way the students acted but as equally disgusted with how lopsided the whistle calls were in the second half. It was ridiculous.

by vaughnzipper on Jan 30, 2012 1:53 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

The refs were overwhelmed, let it get a little out of hand, and then started calling everything under the sun to get control, which just pissed everyone off more.

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by Brett Hein on Jan 30, 2012 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

hoosier, there is no excuse for that behavior.

As a Latter-day Saint, I was very disappointed to see that. It’s classless. Even other schools don’t condescend to the level the BYU fans did. UNACCEPTABLE.

"Every game matters..... unless you play in the SEC."

by Bring the HAMMER! on Jan 30, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I never gave an excuse for it. I was simply commenting on vaughnzipper’s thoughts on the officiating. I agree, the fans crossed a line. Follow us on Twitter @VanquishTheFoe — we made several comments on this as it happened.

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by Brett Hein on Jan 30, 2012 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Definitely agree

While their intentions were to keep things clean on the court all they did was wake up the bear in the stands. The fans were ridiculous to do what they did but the refs were just inept when it came to handling the crowd. You expect the opposing players to get rattled in the Marriott Center but the refs were the ones who looked like a deer in headlights out there.

by vaughnzipper on Jan 30, 2012 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Good article

however only 7 of the 8 previous teams want the finesse referees to keep calling games the same way. The notable exception Gonzaga, GU after getting acclamaited to a rough bruising nonconference schedule get treated to a life of ease in conference play. Well sort of, Gonzaga whose style of play is now suited more towards the nonconference slate then this wimpy conference style of play that simply doesn’t prepare you for the tournament. Case in point GU struggled early last year in non conference play then went on to win like there last ten games only to get blown out by BYU in the tournament. GU and BYU should get mtn west or big 12 officials to ref there two really
remaining games. I hope that BYU doesn’t change its style a.d the rest of the conference should conform. its the only way this conference will ever make noise in the tournament.

by Brian Boyer on Jan 30, 2012 2:39 PM PST via Android app reply actions  

I agree with you. I hope the WCC does adapt to a more physical style of play, but I think that change has to happen at the right pace and for the right reasons. BYU fans acting immaturely may shed some light on the issue (and I hope it does), but it also damages relationships.

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by Keith Harten on Jan 30, 2012 5:33 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Man, poor ref jobs for both of my teams this week

The Corral (Boise State’s Student Section) held it together a little better. If any BYU fans remember the MWC referee Mike Reed, the guy threw out a student during a time out for telling him he’d seen better refereeing in high school. That in sighted “high school ref” chants for the remainder of the first half. He then made BSU administration aware that if students kept chanting it he’d t the team up. Can you believe that?? T the team up for a student section chanting high school ref? Thin skinned, good grief. Point is, the students stopped and never addressed him again until he walked out of the arena. It’s not cool to get your team a technical foul, that’s like kicking them in the junk while they’re already struggling

by BSUbluNorange on Jan 30, 2012 3:10 PM PST reply actions  

BYU Belongs in the Big 12

…not the WCC should the conclusion Cougar fans should draw from their contrasting encounters with both Baylor and St Mary’s.

by DCMOORE on Jan 30, 2012 3:31 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

In the student's defense.

I know that there is no excuse for getting your team a technical, but after the students were warned, (which was very difficult to hear) it was a very few individuals in the back who discovered that if you wrap the towels into a ball it can reach the court that threw them. And also although Saint Mary’s fans may be fine and respectable individuals, the team itself made some very crude and vulgar gestures towards the student section, which only fired them up.

by SportingKC on Jan 30, 2012 9:51 PM PST reply actions  

This type of bad reffing happens very very often,

But hardly never do students react in a way that gives them a technical. Home court disadvantage.

"Every game matters..... unless you play in the SEC."

by Bring the HAMMER! on Jan 31, 2012 9:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Home court disadvantage indeed

Normally when you do see the bad reading it goes in favor of the home team. I would be okay with that if things balanced that way. Unfortunately in this case it did not. SMC had home cooking when we played them there and then had some road cooking when they came to Provo.

Look, long story short is that BYU’s is in a dark place when it comes to scoring and just being in sync on offense. Right now they are in a major slump and I think that is in large part due to not having 6th man of the year Rogers out there to five us a spark off the bench. Abouo is getting more minutes than he deserves.

by vaughnzipper on Jan 31, 2012 11:02 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

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