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• Both Heaps and Nelson look solid through Day 6 of camp.
• O'Neill Chambers thinks they have one of the most talented recieving cores in the country.
• Uona Kaveinga appeals to the NCAA, had he just transfered a few months later he would be eligible. 
• Jeff Call of Desert News has some notes on BYU's first scrimmage of the fall.
• Jeff Call also has an interesting article on the BYU All American QBs who will be getting together over Labor Day Weekend. 
• Jim Rayburn takes a look at Mitch Payne.
• Also and article on how BYU followed in Stanford's foot steps by making scholarships part of the Endowment Fund to free up money a little. 
• The Womens Soccer team comes in at #22 in this years (NSCAA) Preseason Top 25 Poll

If you have any other new, please leave them in the comments. Go Cougars!

 

Over at Mountain West Connection, Jeremy posted his rankings on MWC coaches. Much to Vaughnzippers annoyance, Jeremy ranked Bronco below K-Whitt and Gary Patterson.

The following is Vaughns arguement for Bronco to be #1:

"If speed and talent are the things that everyone says hurts BYU then Bronco is the freaking man for making untalented slow white guys 10 game winners. Plus, he’s done all of this coming out of a very down period in BYU history with Crowton."

"Whitt on the other hand has had highs and lows but you have to contribute the 2008 season to what Meyer did in the 2004 season. All the players in the 2008 season were recruited based on the success from 2004. For that reason I have yet to give Whitt too much credit because last year was the first year we actually saw Whitt’s own team.

Bronco walked into nothing, Whitt walked into everything. Bronco should be #1… plus he has the best record and win pct."

  Because I didn't wish to turn Jeremy post on MWC coaches into a Kyle vs Bronco fest , I'm continuing my retort here.

Vuaghn:

1: First of all I will not deny 2008 had a lot to do with 2004's success but  you really are quick to take away credit from Whittingham. After the celebrations were done Kyle inherited a team he knew couldn't follow up to the marvelous campaign Urban Meyer had.  First of all, he had to replace an OC and had no experienced QB. (BJ had only done minor mop-up duty for Alex Smith in 04'). Several key players besides Smith were gone too  (Morgan Scalley, Sione Pouha, Steve Savoy, Paris Warren, the list goes on) . I think we both agree that BYU was a mess due to Gary Crowton's treatment but make no mistake: Utah was looking to rebuild too.

2. How can you say Kyle's first year was a picnic?. As I stated before, he only got ONE more win than Bronco did (7-5 compared to 6-6)  do you base the first year woes on the fact Bronco lost the holy war and his first bowl game? If so I'll give you that one. If you take both Utah's 2005 team and BYU's 2005 team and put them head to head on paper, they are pretty equal in my eyes.

3. Your bit on Chris Paterson was weird because we weren't even discussing BSU.  We'll make that judgment next year when he's actually a MWC coach. But to answer your question , Yes I think he is a great coach ,his record is better than Kyles and he has two BCS wins but we both know the WAC isn't exactly the SEC. (nor is the MWC for that matter) Better than Kyle? I honestly don't know.

4. Okay, how many players from 2004 played on the 2008 squad? yeah, I can only count them on one hand too. My point is four years is too much of a gap to claim 2008 was all from Meyers previous work. With the exception of the 2005 class, the recruiting gap between Utah and BYU wasn't all that huge.  Plus 7-5, 8-5 aren't exactly prime examples of what you would normally call a successful year  (especially if we got all those great recruits from 2004 you're talking about). YES, 2004 opened doors for us in recruiting but 2008 was Whittingham's work just as much as 2004 was Meyer's.   

5. If all you Cougar fans claim that the 1984 championship gives you bragging rights, why can't we claim our BCS wins give us the same?. I get it, strait up a championship trumps a BCS win but the fact is your boy Bronco hasn't been able to do what Kyle W. , Gary P. and Chris P. have done: Get their team into the big game. It's not always fair that coaches are judged based solely on the biggest games they've been in  but that's how sports works.  Bronco's overall wins and better percentage in the MWC are impressive but until he can add the big game on his resume, people will not put him in the same discussion.     

Bottom line is this: I don't think that Kyle Whittingham is a "better coach"  than Bronco. He's just done more in his time at Utah than Bronco has at BYU. Both of em' has shaky first years, and both of em' saw their teams lay some serious eggs in their coaching years after 2004.  All I'm saying is I object to the idea that all of Kyle's success was all Meyers doing.  Both of em' are great coaches who were the right man to follow the respective situations they inherited from their predecessors.      

Kyle's bowl record 5-0, Bronco, 3-2.

I guess I just want this question answered. Do you or don't you? Think about it. A one hour flight from Boise. Geographical advantage, check. Plenty of Mormons in Boise. Religious bickering, check. A great football program in Boise (we won't discuss men's basketball...ever) and a common ground. We both hate the Utes. Can the Broncos keep up with the Cougs #22 recruiting class, or will this be a dominating affair where the victor leaves with a MWC championship?

I think that we should start Jake Heaps and run the "wild cougar" with Riley Nelson. What does everyone else think? I'm not usually a fan of a 2 quarterback system, but I think that this could work.  I've always thought that the big weakness of running a wildcat formation is that with a running back the defense can focus more on the run, but with Riley running it, they really wouldn't know what to do.

A writer on this site (isportsweb.com) claimed that Washington was the real quarterback U back in April. Now the BYU writer has make a rebuttal stating BYU's claim to the throne.

http://isportsweb.com/2010/07/26/b-y-who-b-y-quarterback-u/

The BYU writer takes a look at five categories

1. Quarterback Stats

2. NCAA Records

3. Awards and Accolades.

4. Win-Loss Record

5. Advancement to the NFL.

I don't know if this will get around and pour fuel on the fire for September 4, but kind of a coincidence that it is coming up now.

We don't have much to talk about in July, so you should find this blast to the past interesting. As long as there are critics to the championship this will be a relevant topic.

http://byufootballtalk.blogspot.com/2010/07/defending-1984-national-championship.html

Gives 5 reasons why BYU's 1984 National Championship should not be disputed.

1. Beat the number 3 ranked team.

2. Beat Tulsa.

3. Won its bowl game.

4. Was the consensus number 1.

5. Win-loss record.

From the FanPosts...

Does anyone know if former Trojan Uona Kaveinga will be able to play right away now? This article on ESPN states that junior and seniors transferring to other programs will not have to sit out a year due to the sanctions currently placed on USC. Since Uona transferred as a junior he should be eligible for this but he did transfer before this was all announced. What are your thoughts or insights to this? This could be huge for BYU.

http://byufootballtalk.blogspot.com/2010/06/top-10-byu-football-games.html

"To help pass the quiet summer months, or to just take your mind off the conference expansion buzz. I am counting down the Top 10 games in BYU history. One game per day for the next two weeks. At the end of the game summary, I have included links to video highlights of the game. If you have additional insights to the game or links for highlights feel free to use the comments section to share.

"BYU has won one national championship, 23 conference championships, and 505 games since 1922. In the process of achieving these milestones, the BYU Cougars have had many individual games that stand out. While each win is reflected equally in the wins column, we all can agree that certain wins are more significant and meaningful than the others.

"In composing this top 10 list, I scored each game based on the following factors (point value in italics):

"1. The caliber of the opponent. This includes national ranking, overall win-loss record, future NFL players, etc. 25 points
"2. What was at stake? 20 points
"3. What was the impact of the game? Maybe the game did not have much riding on it, but as a result of the game, accolades and honors came to BYU and its players, or it put BYU in a position to achieve something that would otherwise be improbable. 20 points
"4. Was BYU the underdog or the favorite? Winning the games you are supposed to lose means more than winning the games you are supposed to win. 10 points
"5. Was there a dramatic finish? If BYU was heavily favored to win a dramatic finish is not awarded points. 10 points
"6. What were the other underlying storylines? (i.e. injuries, Bowl Alliance snub, revenge, record setting performances) 5 points
"7. Nostalgia. As history passes what is truly great takes on a life of its own, so while "style points" are nice, "staying power" better dictates if a game is top 10 or not. 10 points

"Without further ado, here is number 10. "

I am affectionately anointing this week as "BCS Bash Week." On my blog I will attack the cartel disguised as the Bowl Championship Series for the next four days.

The four part series will include the following:

1. Tuesday: The Scam
2. Wednesday: The Cover-up
3. Thursday: The Evidence
4. Friday: The Solution

I have made significant research while preparing each day’s topic to ensure that I present accurate information and that I make substantiated assertions. I am not simply venting. I know your time is valuable, and I have ensured that each topic has enough substance that reading it will not be a waste of time.

Come back each day as we bash the BCS...

Sure Jim Boylen is a passionate guy, but did you know he's also a jerk, a complete polar opposite to the classy Dave Rose? Well, if you didn't know this, look no further than Wednesday's post game spat with the Salt Lake Tribune's Gordon Monson:

Boylen: "Don't come here once every two years and ask those questions. I don't want to hear that from you."

"I can ask the questions," said Monson.

"Good," said Boylen. "I'm not answering it. Don't come here once every two years. I don't want to hear that from you."

Monson replied, "Coach, give me a break — show some class."

Said Boylen, "Yeah, nice of you to show up."

You may be wondering what the question was that angered Boylen so badly... "Coach, what was the reason for the offensive inefficiency?"

GIVE ME A BREAK BOILER BOYLEN. YOU'RE PATHETIC, AND THE REASON WHY YOUR TEAM IS PATHETIC. No wonder nobody shows up to your lousy games.